Wesley Clark: America Needs Universal Health Care

Wesley Clark has again affirmed his commitment to leading America towards universal health care.

(Click on Youtube links below to see Clark explain his position on healthcare)

In a speech made in Huntsville, Alabama this week, the likely presidential candidate indicated that a Clark administration would make it a top priority to provide medical care to the uninsured.

"We need to fix the access to the healthcare system," Clark declared, repeating a view he promoted frequently during his campaign for president in 2004.

During that campaign, Clark made the case that a citizen's right to healthcare was equal to that of a solider or a congressman. During a memorable speech in New Hampshire in October 2003, he said:

"Just as our soldiers can't do their jobs without adequate health care, our families shouldn't be expected to do their best jobs without adequate health care, either. Our nation must provide the same kind of support and access to health care for families that our army did for me and for its soldiers and that our government does for our elected officials."

After Clark's presidential bid ended with election of John Kerry as the Democratic nominee, he continued to stress the need to bring America up to par with virtually every other industrialized country in the world in providing medical care to its citizens.

In January 2006, during his "Real State of the Union" address for the New America Foundation, Clark said:

"No child in America should grow up without regular medical check-ups and care -- or regular exercise and physical fitness - and every adult should be provided access to the kinds of diagnostic testing and preventive treatments which can slow the onset of aging diseases like diabetes, atherosclerosis, and Alzheimer's. Additional insurance coverage should be directed to catastrophic illness and injuries, the kind that wreck families and shatter productive lives. And inevitably this will mean transitioning over time from a work place centered, private payer system toward greater reliance on some form of single-payer system to ease administrative burdens and reduce costs."

In June of 2006, at the Texas Democratic Party Convention, Clark lamented:

"Greatest technology in the world, best doctors, wonderful hospitals and 45 million Americans can't get access to health insurance? It's a tragic waste of human potential"

Watch on Youtube:

Clark explains his support for a Single Payer System
http://www.youtube.com/...

Clark comforts a grieving grandmother over Medicaid cuts
http://www.youtube.com/...



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Re: Wesley Clark: America Needs Universal Health C (none / 0)

youtube links didn't work for me.  here's the single-payer snippet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uidxlw64P Tg

interesting stuff.  he's certainly passionate.  i could even see myself supporting him in the primary if he were to demonstrate some more political savvy.


by gabr1el on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 11:10:21 AM EST

Clark is on target! (none / 0)

Wes Clark hit the nail on the head with this position. He seems to be everyones favorite candidate for Vice president in 2008!


by politics64 on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 11:42:26 AM EST

What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

He has no real chance of winning Democratic nomination so what is Clark running for?

My guess is Sec. of Defense.  He doesn't bring anything to the table as VP.


by BrionLutz on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 12:27:34 PM EST

Re: What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

in the event of a terrorist attack or some major national security crisis, i could see democratic supporters flocking to clark.  it's a distinct possibility, considering the state of international affairs.

i would agree that he seems a long-shot at this point, but you can't deny that democrats would benefit from his presence in a presidential campaign.


by gabr1el on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 12:35:51 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (2.00 / 0)

"n the event of a terrorist attack or some major national security crisis, i could see democratic supporters flocking to clark."

Nobody has ever flocked to Clark.  He was wrong on Iraq WMD and Iraq/911 so hard to see him having any credibility there.

For a guy with a military resume to get the biggest military question of the last 50 years wrong makes him a weak candidate.


by BrionLutz on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 09:55:56 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (3.00 / 1)

http://www.rapidfire-silverbullets.com/2 007/01/mining_and_finding_prescient_g.ht ml

I think Clark has been right all along.  His 2002 debate with Wolfiwitz  before congressional committee was brilliant too.


by haypops on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 12:07:14 AM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

"I think Clark has been right all along."

He was wrong about Bush Jr when Clark said in 2000 that the world "needed" the Bush Jr admin and that Clark was glad his "good friends were elected".

He was wrong when he headlined a Bush Jr fundraiser in Arkansas in 2001.

He was wrong about Iraq.

That's wrong enough for me.

But the real point was that Clark has never gotten any traction with the voters. He didn't in 2004 and he doesn't know so it is legit to ask what position he wants to get in a Democratic administration.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:24:58 AM EST
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He certainly wouldn't have put BrianLutz (3.00 / 1)

on any "Good friend" list.

take your fraud elsewhere. Bill Clinton actually said "I love George Bush" So did Hillary.

If you want to smear one of the few who have been able to bring honorability and credibility back to the Democratic party, that's on you. But choose to continue your little smear acmpaign and expect the party to be right back where it was.. On it's way to a closed page in history.

You have two years to prove that this party can restore it's image to a semblance of it's former self. You seem to be intent on a regressive course.

If there's one person on MyDD that can really give the GOP the burst it needs. It's you. Good luck with that.


by westcott on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 12:28:21 PM EST
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So you didn't know Clark supported Bush Jr (none / 0)

and was lavish in his praise of the Bush Jr "team" right after the 2000 election.  It made his later claims of voting for Gore a but suspect.  The Republican fund raiser Clark did for Bush Jr in 2001 didn't help either.

You get the feeling he's been campaigning for a job in Bush Jr admin, when that didn't pan out, he tried for one on Democratic Party.

He's never polled very high, not really serious presidential candidate so he's obviously trying for a job...but which one.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 01:23:31 PM EST
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Re: So you didn't know Clark supported Bush Jr (none / 0)

Give it up.

One speech after he retired and they wanted him to run for Governor of Arkansas does not give you license to play your stupid game.

He did not praise George Bush. He was hopeful that "His team" would be able to get things done the right way.

Keep playing your game. If others choose to align themselves with you it will be the end of the Latte liberal Democratic party.

Have a nice day.


by westcott on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:52:36 PM EST
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Re: So you didn't know Clark supported Bush Jr (none / 0)

"One speech after he retired and they wanted him to run for Governor of Arkansas does not give you license to play your stupid game."

Two speeches actually, the one in which he was so happy his "great friends" won the 2000 election and badly America "needed" them.

But it was Clark's choice to be a fundraiser for Bush Jr in 2001...that's fine but he was clearly a Republican lobbying for a position with a Republican  president.

Clark's history has hurt his credibility. Had he done like Webb, renounce the Republican Party and put that change on the line and win an election, he might have some credibility but his actions pretty much brand him as playing both sides.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 07:03:51 PM EST
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Re: So you didn't know Clark supported Bush Jr (none / 0)

That is a lie
You are a fraud

Have a nice day


by westcott on Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 09:54:13 AM EST
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Watch this (none / 0)

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseac tion=vids.individual&videoid=1771551 181

This is General Clark on Charlie Rose - September 23, 2002

Stop your fraudulent claims about General Clark's view of Iraq. It's been explained to you enough times.

Also, you are no longer allowed to complain about FOX news, as you've wholely adopted their style of propagating falsehood.

Have a nice day.


by westcott on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 12:36:24 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (3.00 / 1)

[Clark] was wrong on Iraq WMD

You should be more specific about what you mean by "right" and "wrong" on WMD.

For example, "right" could mean guessing correctly that the WMD did not exist or remaining agnostic till such weapons were actually found.  By these definitions, your own favorite candidate, Obama (though he wisely and strongly opposed the war) was wrong about the WMD.  Obama did not dispute the then prevailing view that Saddam had chem & bio weapons.  In his pre-war speech, Obama said:

[Saddam] has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.


Keep it short. DemocraticShortList.com
by Rob in Vermont on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 07:21:26 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (1.00 / 1)

"You should be more specific about what you mean by "right" and "wrong" on WMD."

Clark did not oppose Iraq war.

Obama opposed Iraq war.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 10:41:14 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

On September 26, 2002 Clark testified to the Armed Service Committee and said:

"...in the near term, time is on our side , and we should endeavor to use the UN if at all possible. This may require a period of time for inspections or even the development of a more intrusive inspection program, if necessary backed by force. This is foremost an effort to gain world-wide legitimacy for US concerns and possible later action, but it may also impede Saddam's weapons programs and further constrain his freedom of action. "

So what was Obama saying to the Armed Service Committee in 2002?


by haypops on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 11:59:01 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

"So what was Obama saying to the Armed Service Committee in 2002?"

That the US should not invade Iraq.  One of the few politicians who took that stand.

The reason Clark's failure to make that call is that his claim to fame is his military expertise and his failure was in military expertise.


by BrionLutz on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 12:39:23 AM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

I donb't recall Obama saying anything in 2002, while Clark has been outspoken about this in the halls of congress where it counts.


by haypops on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 10:56:09 AM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

"I donb't recall Obama saying anything in 2002, while Clark has been outspoken about this in the halls of congress where it counts."

Well..work on those "recall" skills.

Clark did not oppose the Iraq war.

Obama opposed the Iraq war.

Clark was wrong.

Obama was right...on one of the most crucial military and national security questions of last 50 years.


by BrionLutz on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 02:49:41 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (3.00 / 1)

Obama did take a stong stand against war with Iraq. His speech I linked to certainly proves that. But his speech - which was terrific - was a polemic. It was unabashedly anti-Bush.  Such oratory, of course, would not have been terribly useful in Congressional testimony.  What Clark was doing was using his military expertise to lend credibility to the arguments of the anti-war politicians.  Paul Wellstone, in his floor speech against the war, referred to Clark's words in order to buttress his own position:

[A]s General Wes Clark, former Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe has recently noted, a premature go-it-alone invasion of Iraq "would super-charge recruiting for Al Qaida."

The fundamental arguments Clark was making, with regard to the reasons we should avoid or not rush to war against Iraq, with regard to the need for more international support, for pushing further with the inspection process - these were the same positions held and espoused by anti-war politicians at the time.

Obama and Clark both did their part in 2002, using their own particular strongest assets - oratorical skills for the one, experience in military strategy for the other - to push a case against the administration's headstrong rush to war.

They'd likely both make great presidents, as would a number of the other Democrats who are now running or may enter the race. We have a truly outstanding bench.  


Keep it short. DemocraticShortList.com
by Rob in Vermont on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 11:16:46 AM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

"The fundamental arguments Clark was making..."

Nope...Clark equivocated.  On the one hand this, on the other hand that without ever making a choice, without making a decision.

End result his military expertise proved to be worse than an Illnois state senator who correctly stated we should not invade Iraq and clearly laid laid out the reasons why which have all been proven right.

You go with the guy who got it right not the guy who got it wrong.


by BrionLutz on Sun Jan 21, 2007 at 02:47:18 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (none / 0)

He's not been off active service long enough to be eligible to serve as Sec Def. He could be Sec of State though. I believe he'd make a strong VP for many of the other canidates, but he's previously made statements that don't lead me to believe he may not be willing to serve as anyone's VP - "I won't be anybodies Dick Cheney."


by Quinton on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 01:06:24 PM EST
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Clark is the Logical VP Choice (none / 0)

If Clark decides not to run, I think he would make an excellent VP for either Edwards or Obama.  I think the assumption on the part of the voters in 2008 would be that as VP, Clark would be in a position to regularly (in every meeting) provide the president with a top notch national security perspective.

If Clark decides to run, and he loses the nomination, I still think he would make an excellent VP for either Edwards or Obama.  In fact, at this point, I would bet that he will be the VP candidate in 2008.  

Don't forget that the most successful Democratic ticket in the last 40 years had two southerners on it: Clinton and Gore. The most politically pragmatic ticket for 2008 would be Edwards/Clark.  I realize that such a pragmatic argument, based as it is in actual history, is lost on a lot of idealistic Democrats, but it is nevertheless the truth.    


by Demo37 on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 03:48:33 PM EST
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Re: Clark is the Logical VP Choice (none / 0)

"If Clark decides not to run, I think he would make an excellent VP for either Edwards or Obama."

Clark brings nothing to the table, a guy with low approval ratings who will not bring any red states to the Democratic column.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:27:29 AM EST
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Re:And Obama & HRC will ? (none / 0)

Brian,

If Clark won't bring any new Red states, you think Obama or Hillary will ?

Who would have a better shot at winning states like Arkansas, Ohio,Wisconsin, Colorado, West Virginia, Virginia & Montana in a General election?

A General Clark or a Barack Obama?
A General Clark or a Hillary Clinton?

Anyone who is from the south or the rocky mountains, understands the reality of how the general population of voters think & view things.

This is not the Presidency of the Democratic party. We are talking about winning the general election. The nominee will need to attract millions( mostly white) of non-Democratic voters in order win.

These voters will be overwhelmingly non-partisan, and much more moderate than you hardcore Democratic base.


by livyoga on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:43:52 AM EST
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Re:And Obama & HRC will ? (none / 0)

"If Clark won't bring any new Red states, you think Obama or Hillary will?"

Obama is a wild card who could win a CO or FL or VA by himself.

However the point was Clark is not really running for President so the question was, what does he bring as VP?  It's hard to see what Clark adds to a ticket.

For Example, Webb would bring VA and has better credentials and more political punch than Clark.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 11:12:45 AM EST
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Huh? (none / 0)

How does Webb have better credentials than Clark?


by jrb1968 on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:42:59 PM EST
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Re: Huh? (none / 0)

"How does Webb have better credentials than Clark?"

Assistant. Sec. of Defense, Sec.of the Navy, former Reagan Republican, won a tough Senate race, combat vet, brings in Va.


by BrionLutz on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 07:00:03 PM EST
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Re: Huh? (none / 0)

  • First in his class at West Point
  • Rhodes Scholar
  • Combat veteran (trained himself to walk without a limp to continue service)
  • West Point professor
  • In uniform for the better part of four decades
  • White House fellow in Ford admnistration
  • Supreme Allied Commander of Europe
  • Directed a successful military operation to rout a regime
  • Directed a foreign occupation
  • Best-selling author
  • Honorary Knight
  • Successful businessman
Oh, and he speaks five languages.


by jrb1968 on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 08:13:37 PM EST
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Re: Huh? (none / 0)

Webb supported Clark in 2004 and they have only grown closer.  Clark has tremendous support in Northern Virgina.  Obama would be smashed in a head to head primary with Clark.   I would add that Webb and Clark share much of the same grass root supporters.  Do you read the local blogs?


by haypops on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 10:04:36 PM EST
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Re: What is Clark running for? (3.00 / 1)

Oh, I think he'll run.

;)


by pelican on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 04:44:17 PM EST
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Will Clark Run? (none / 0)

Pelican, I know you are very fond of Clark.  :)

At this point, it looks to me like he is leaning in that direction.  Place your bets....


by Demo37 on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 07:03:07 PM EST
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Re: Wesley Clark (none / 0)

I think Clark would be a great candidate for Secretary of State.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Fri Jan 19, 2007 at 05:12:20 PM EST

Re: If Bill Clinton was 11th place at this point (none / 0)

If Bill Clinton was polling at 11th place at this time, February 1991 & went on to jump & win the nomination- CLARK is in much better position if he decides to do it.

If Clark decides to enter, he would immediately be in the Top 5 contenders. He would also have an immediate base of 2004 supporters many of whom are still intact.

Clark & Edwards would be the two strongest candidates in the general election.

Hillary or Obama would be a John Kerry all over again.


by livyoga on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 01:03:22 AM EST

Re: Wesley Clark: may run very soon. (none / 0)

Based on Wes Clark's speech in Alabama last Wednesday, he sounds & acts like he's running.

And if he does run, watch how quickly Clark netroots supporters will coalesce behind General Clark.

Clarkies are just simply waiting patiently on the sidelines.

He will easily jump into the Top 3 candidates in the netroots community if he says Yes to running.


by livyoga on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:31:43 AM EST

About Clark in 2008 (none / 0)

I tend to agree.

The one thing I would say that is a little peculiar to a Clark candidacy is that I think last time, and again, I think this time, he is going to have trouble getting traction on domestic issues.  And yes, of course, I fully anticipate wonderful domestic policy speeches like this one that sound good...to those of us who actually read them.  

But for low info voters in the primaries (about what 70%?) he is always going to be "the General," and to the extent that they are looking for a candidate who lines up with their domestic wishes, he will not have appeal.  

As a matter of common sense, a general has absolutely no legislative or domestic policy experience.  When you listen to Clark, he sounds like a very intelligent general...because...well that is what he is.  Again, as a matter of common sense, how would a general "work" with Congress to pass legislation?  There is going to be a certain square peg into a round hole assumption.  

Accordingly, aside and apart from Clark's merits, I see his electoral prospects being largely determined by the course of the Iraq war.  If the Iraq war is still a smoldering mess by 2008, and the electorate is fixated on the singular need to somehow solve that smoldering mess, I think his electoral prospects improve.  On the other hand, if there is some bipartisan plan by the end of this year, for bringing the war to a close, his prospects diminish.  

Regretably, I suspect that the war will in fact still be a smoldering mess in 2008.  As such, I would not write Clark off.  


by Demo37 on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 03:23:32 AM EST
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Clark polishes himself, expands policy scope (none / 0)

I saw Clark speak more times than I can remember in 2003-04. I thought he was good on the stump.

Then I saw him speak in September of 2005, and he blew me away -- he had improved so much.

He had the best intellect of anyone running in 2004, and will again in 2008, if he runs. He was still politically green in 2003 and he's worked hard at improving those skills since then. The guy likes to get things right, so maybe it's just his impulse to improve.

But I wouldn't be surprised if he waited out his competitors, and seem above the fray after a several months of the other candidates attacking each other.

If he launches his operation in Iowa in, say, September, it won't be too late.


by jrb1968 on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 02:52:37 PM EST

Clark's Prognosis (none / 0)

I tend to agree that he has improved.  With respect to Iowa, he made the unfortunate decision to skip Iowa in 2004, an insult to the state's voters.  If he decides to run, it will be interesting to see if there is any residual anger over his 2004 decision.  (Clark then fared very poorly in New Hampshire...Are they going to suddenly warm up to him this time?)

On the issue of intellect, Kerry struck me as at least as intellectual as Clark (perhaps on different subjects).  I am not sure if glaring intellect sells to the voters.

More than any candidate, Clark's prospects are closely tied to the war.  If Democrats chose "the General", it will be because of Iraq, and his seeming ability to solve it...not his stump speeches or his intellect.


by Demo37 on Sat Jan 20, 2007 at 08:14:27 PM EST
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Re: Wesley Clark: America Needs Universal Health C (none / 0)

"That is a lie. You are a fraud. Have a nice day."

So now that you've been proven wrong on Clark, what are you going to do?

I'd suggest denial ;)  Clark comes off as a poseur and opportunist, trying to pick the winning side and lobbying them for a job to feed his ego.

Clark after 2000 election: If you look around the world, there's a lot of work to be done. And I'm very glad we've got the great team in office, men like Colin Powell, Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, Paul O'Neill - people I know very well - our president George W. Bush. We need them there, because we've got some tough challenges ahead in Europe.

Clark: Helping Bush Jr raise money.  This link is to a speech Gen. Clark delivered at the Lincoln Day dinner, a fund-raiser for the Pulaski County Republican Party, in Little Rock, Ark., May 11, 2001.


by BrionLutz on Mon Jan 22, 2007 at 10:20:57 AM EST


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